Gladiator MK II - 3 Buttons are not working

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Re: Gladiator MK II - 3 Buttons are not working

Postby Victorus » Wed Apr 28, 2021 15:21

Try to disconnect 3-button plate and connect joystick. Will all 3 mentioned buttons be "pressed"?
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Re: Gladiator MK II - 3 Buttons are not working

Postby lt_vados » Thu Apr 29, 2021 0:27

Disconnected 3 buttons plate with the same results - 3 buttons are still indicated red.
Then disconnected the 9 button plate that also then connects 3 button plates with the same result - 3 buttons still indicated red

Also marked 3 buttons that are not functioning.
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Re: Gladiator MK II - 3 Buttons are not working

Postby Victorus » Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:13

Try to disconnect cable NOT from 9-button PCB, but from main controller. May be cable wires or pins are shorten, or pins on main controller PCB?
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Re: Gladiator MK II - 3 Buttons are not working

Postby lt_vados » Thu Apr 29, 2021 13:37

Which of the 5 I marked on the picture?
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Re: Gladiator MK II - 3 Buttons are not working

Postby Victorus » Thu Apr 29, 2021 14:33

This. Unscrew controller PCB if needed.
1 - Throttle,
2 - Grip
3, 4 - Axes

Shown connector - button PCBs.
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Re: Gladiator MK II - 3 Buttons are not working

Postby lt_vados » Mon May 03, 2021 16:26

Tried to disconnect all the possible PB and the result was always the same in regards to 3 buttons indicated as activated.

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Re: Gladiator MK II - 3 Buttons are not working

Postby Victorus » Thu May 06, 2021 21:19

I have modeled your situation. 5 lines flash (picture from your post Fr apr 23, 2021 20:41)if pin #2 is shortened to ground. Try to wash PCB with alcohol.
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Re: Gladiator MK II - 3 Buttons are not working

Postby lt_vados » Fri May 07, 2021 13:05

Which PCB exactly or all of them to be safe?
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Re: Gladiator MK II - 3 Buttons are not working

Postby Victorus » Fri May 07, 2021 16:21

This.
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Re: Gladiator MK II - 3 Buttons are not working

Postby lt_vados » Fri May 07, 2021 17:01

Ok, so cleaned up with alcohol the PCb but unfortunately with no success. Still 3 buttons show activated.

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Re: Gladiator MK II - 3 Buttons are not working

Postby Victorus » Sun May 09, 2021 12:29

((May be chip input breakdown(
Please shoot PCB both sides of shown area. Closest as possible.
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Try to touch R4 contacts. Сold soldering may occur.
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Re: Gladiator MK II - 3 Buttons are not working

Postby lt_vados » Fri May 14, 2021 13:23

As requested attaching photos of the PCB closer. No cold soldering have been detected.
I have also noticed that one of the button on the stick does not work - this one does not indicated red though (see picture below).
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Re: Gladiator MK II - 3 Buttons are not working

Postby lt_vados » Fri May 14, 2021 13:24

PCB photos.
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Re: Gladiator MK II - 3 Buttons are not working

Postby Ron61 » Fri May 14, 2021 19:28

Start the configurator and activate the Poll checkbox in Profile-Buttons. And now carefully try to close the legs of the CD4021 register with tweezers 14 and 16. What's going on in the configurator?
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