Black Box Questions

[Ron61]

And what prevents you from calibrating the axes on the handle, maintaining the profile and loading the corresponding one when changing?

[VirusAM]

Sorry i don't understand what this has to do with the kg12 not working with multidevice NG firmware?
The calibration is not a problem for me, nor the profile switching, I asked only to understand how it is supposed to work as there is no manual for this NG thing.....
My main issue is that no matter what I do the kg12 grip is not recognized...
So there is some way to fix this?

[Ron61]

Download your profile file for KG12 so that you can view it at home. I have no problem changing grips in the NG version.

[VirusAM]

but in your screenshot i saw you have the gladiator...not the kg12...it is the same thing?
From where i need to download the profile?
I don't have a profile for kg12 ng as i not able to make the grip being recognized...
I have a working profile for the for the old version, but it doesn't work with the ng version. So i think i need to do from scratch

Maybe you can give me your profile to see if i can see if it works

on the f14 and MCG Pro I didn't need any profile all was there by default...
Could you do a step by step guide for me (and for everyone that has more then one grip and want to use NG firmware)....
I don't think i am stupid...also i am used to testing and experimenting.
Infact i got the Mcg Pro and F14 grips to work without help (a part from the POV stuff)...but the kg12 there is nothing that seems able to make it recognized....

You also saw my screenshots, so maybe can you see something wrong there?
i see that the settings are different by yours but if that is default..then my default is different...

[VirusAM]

OK..maybe my Kg12 grip arrived broken....
I tried to load the original k12 firmware and now i am having the same issues as with the ng firmware.
The grip is not recognized and no buttons work.
It is the only grip that makes this...
I loaded the latest beta firmware and the latest stable one, reset all to default....loaded the original k12 profile..but nothing...
The pictures are for the last stable firmware but the results are the same with all the latest firmwares
Seems dead...before yiou ask...yes the grip is well tightened to the base.

[fallout9]

Yes i need those 2 buttons....as i want a short press to be only the usual key, and long press both of them...That is for DCS planes like the F18 where i use this button both a NWS/Undesignate, which on the ground needs to be hold, and as a modifier. With the MCG Pro i use the same setting and has always worked well for me.

I was directed to this solution by yourself

Sorry, forgot about your special assignment. But it looks like it's workingL

https://imgur.com/a/SQRneIF


Also please do as Ron61 asked - save your profile and upload it here.

[VirusAM]

Hi fallout
i thank both of you as you are trying to help.
Maybe its me, i use VKB hardware by just two months, and while in the meantime i learned a lot there are still a lot of things that seems very awkward to me.
About the TEMPO for the F14 grip i solved....but everytime i load the profile i need to hit restart..with the MCG Pro does not work this way, i do the change i hit SET and i am good do go, with the F14 for tempo i have to hit also restart after set..for me is strange but since i discovered that it is ok for me.

My biggest concern now is that the KG12, brand new, is not working at all.
I would happily share my profile. But i don't have an NG one for the KG12, as i am not able to create one if the base does not recognize the stick.
When i flashed the base with the NG multidevice firmware, the MCG Pro and F14 grip were both recognized immediately, with all the buttons already working and i adjusted and saved my profiles from there.
For the KG12 it is impossible for me to create a profile because as said above the grip is not recognized. I have a profile for the KG12 with the older firmware.
Anyway, now it seems that the KG12 could be the problem, as also with the original firmware the grip is not recognized.

I posted also here about this problem (viewtopic.php?f=25&t=4280&start=15) and shared my KG12 profile for the original firmware version

[VirusAM]

Ok i managed to get it working with the older gen firmware.
The blackbox was flashing red.
But then i hit default, restart, loaded a profile (default k12 profile) and worked.

With the NG firmware (multidevice) when plug the usb the blackbox flashes red, and the device is seen as VKB-SIM Gunfighter Modern Combat Pro NG v1.990 and no buttons from the K12 will work and the black box will keep to flash red.
If then i unplug it and attach the F14 or MCG Pro grip they are recognized immediately and all is working.
Can someone share a working profile for NG multidevice firmware with KG12 grip?I see only the gladiator in NG firmware, and if i try to set the KG12, it don't work anyway
I have _MK2 black box and gunfighter III base.
My grips are F14, KG12 and MCG Pro.

[VirusAM]

I have made some progress...don't know how.
But now the last version of VKB-Dev software sees the kg12 as green.
But still it appears as if it is the MCG Pro.
The buttons don't work, but if i press set from profile 3, then the buttons works but all messed up (not correct buttons for kg12...for example the big button with white circle is recognized as button 18) and still the device is seen as Modern Combat Grip
Before you tell me....i restarted multiple times the device but nothing will change.
Also if i press default, the buttons don't work again.

So what i still need to do to have my grip recognized?
Is there someone that tells me in clear way what i am doing wrong?Or there is a bug in this firmware/software?
Can someone help please?
Thanks

Here you can see that now the software sees the connection to the grip (but err-state is present)

Here you can see where i selected kg12 (there was Gladiator before by default)

Here you see that the layout is seen as MCG Pro

[VirusAM]

I also did a video to show the issue


https://youtu.be/OzgjVfhm2fA