Can't flash or calibrate MCG grip on Gladiator Pro Mk II base.

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Re: Can't flash or calibrate MCG grip on Gladiator Pro Mk II base.

Postby fallout9 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:11

Try this one then: _Gladiator_MCG_v1_98_6.vkb, the Gladiator it has exactly the same electronics like the Gladiator Pro MKII (only the gimbal system is different). It's important to hit the Default button at the end and calibrate before trying any buttons or axes.

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Re: Can't flash or calibrate MCG grip on Gladiator Pro Mk II base.

Postby Griphos » Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:30

Yes, that's the one I'm using. And I do hit the Default button after flashing and before recalibrating. Then I end calibration and test.

I've read the manual on POV hats, and figured out how to get the left POV (POV2) always as a POV (rather than off/on). But I cannot see how to get the top POV (POV1) working.

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Re: Can't flash or calibrate MCG grip on Gladiator Pro Mk II base.

Postby fallout9 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:35

Name of the ministick that's not working please? Is it the Gate Cont or Master mode? And what do you mean it's not working? Axes nor working or buttons or neither?

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Re: Can't flash or calibrate MCG grip on Gladiator Pro Mk II base.

Postby Griphos » Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:41

Sorry, I was going by the names in the config software. It just numbers them. It's the master mode hat that doesn't register as a POV or as axes in the test page of the software, and isn't recognized by either windows or the sims. In Windows, the Gate Cont hat is either both a POV hat AND X and Y Rotation (depending on the mode) or just a POV. This is because I set that hat to "always" in the profile page. It was one or the other depending on mode at first (set to "on/off" in the profile page).

But the Master mode hat doesn't cause any response in either Windows game controllers or the sim. It's button (button 37) works fine in the config software, but doesn't seem to register in Windows. I can assign it in the sim.

In the pictures I've attached, it's the red POV hat.

Oh, and it's button 38, on the Gate Cont hat that switches modes.

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Re: Can't flash or calibrate MCG grip on Gladiator Pro Mk II base.

Postby fallout9 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:50

The Master Mode ministick is supposed to work as a 8 way hat and no axes in combination with a Gladiator/Pro/. Do you have 2 POVs in Global/ Common?

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Re: Can't flash or calibrate MCG grip on Gladiator Pro Mk II base.

Postby Griphos » Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:53

I believe so, yes. I haven't changed anything there.
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How does it show as an 8-way hat on the test page? As a POV like the other? Or as buttons? It doesn't show as either for me.

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Re: Can't flash or calibrate MCG grip on Gladiator Pro Mk II base.

Postby fallout9 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:00

It shows as POV on the Test page, the red one.

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Re: Can't flash or calibrate MCG grip on Gladiator Pro Mk II base.

Postby Griphos » Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:06

That's what I thought. Nothing happens on the red POV icon when I move the Master Mode hat. On the blue icon, I see arrows move as I move around the Gate Cont hat.

Do you see anything in my settings that may be causing this. I've not changed anything except I changed the setting for the blue POV hat to "always" in the Profile page.

I have to work in the morning, so I need to get to sleep. I'll check in tomorrow.

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Re: Can't flash or calibrate MCG grip on Gladiator Pro Mk II base.

Postby fallout9 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:09

Changing that shouldn't make a difference. Have a bit of patience please and let's wait for Ron to see what he has to say about this issue.

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Re: Can't flash or calibrate MCG grip on Gladiator Pro Mk II base.

Postby Ron61 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 13:15

There is a clear error in the settings, this can be seen at a glance.
First, follow the simple rule of matching firmware versions with the configurator. In brackets in the configurator, on the very top line, the recommended firmware version is indicated. Higher is possible, lower is not. Therefore, update from here both the firmware and the configurator. After that, reset to default and calibrate all the axes.
Secondly, you will immediately see the difference in the settings and this will be the reason why POV1 did not work for you.
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Have you noticed a mistake?
The configurator allows you to very flexibly configure the location and operation of microstics, depending on the availability of additional devices. For example, your pedals can be connected directly to the GF - the 7th axis is already booked for this, you just have to calibrate them. And after that, make differential brakes out of them.
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Re: Can't flash or calibrate MCG grip on Gladiator Pro Mk II base.

Postby Griphos » Thu Apr 16, 2020 14:59

The error may be clear to you, since this is your software, but it is not to me, and doesn't appear to have been to the other person helping in this thread. I'm not an idiot and don't appreciate being spoken to as if I am. What is idiotic is to send someone the wrong controller! And then, when that is discovered, to send them parts to fix the controller themselves instead of sending the correct controller with some kind of indication of the correct software to use to make it work if it is not simply plug and play, as most hardware is made to be for some time now.

I used the latest software I could find, which is what every indication on your website and in this thread and on my support ticket told me to do. The versions are plainly listed above. There has been no indication that a different version is necessary. If there is some "simple rule" about checking for numbers and matching them, perhaps that simple rule should be stated clearly somewhere. I simply used the versions offered on the website and in this thread. And nowhere has there been a link to the page you link to here for me to find or access.

I do not want to connect the rudder pedals to this software. They work fine as plug and play. And they don't have toe brakes anyway, so I'm not sure why that is even being discussed.

And even if I were interested in using complicated software to set up a controller, yours is hardly what I would call intuitive. Nor is your manual for it. The fact that you have to label your pictures with plain indications of what the text in the software means and which aspects of the controller it refers to shows this clearly. Perhaps you should make those labels somewhere in the software or the manual! Further, while looking through the software, I saw what looked like a conflict on the page you show at the top in axes #1 and #2, but when I changed those, they just changed back when I tested. It is not clear to me what I'm supposed to do when changing settings in the configurator to make them "take" or be set. I tried pushing the "set" button. They still changed back. And nowhere in the manual could I find what they were supposed to be changed to.

All the way through this process your company has been asking a great deal of me as the end user.

So, could you state clearly which version of the configurator and firmware I need to use with this particular controller to get all of it to work correctly by default? There are three versions of the configurator in the link from the page you suggested I visit. And three versions of firmware. And two versions of the bootloader. Which is the correct version of each for my particular hardware? And which actual firmware file *.vkb do I need to use with the Gladiator Pro Mk. II base and the MCG (non-Pro) grip?

Please make sure to clearly answer these last questions in your response rather than talk about configuring rudder pedals. My rudder pedals work. My joystick does not.

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Re: Can't flash or calibrate MCG grip on Gladiator Pro Mk II base.

Postby Ron61 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 15:40

You need to download the firmware archive 1.98_E, the configurator 0.91.23, zbootloader 1.18. The name of the firmware indicates the name of the grip for which it is suitable. In your case, this is _Gladiator_MCG_v1_98_E.vkb. After flashing, reset the default settings with the corresponding button in the configurator. Calibrate all axes and use. There will be a desire to understand the settings more thoroughly - we are always happy to help.

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Re: Can't flash or calibrate MCG grip on Gladiator Pro Mk II base.

Postby Griphos » Thu Apr 16, 2020 15:58

Okay, in the link you posted above, there are links for firmware and software. On those Mega pages the latest firmware is 98_B, there is no 98_E listed. The latest software is 91_17, no 91_23 is listed. I can see and downloaded v1.18 of the bootloader.

I have to go to work now. I will try v98.B and 91.17 when I get home, since those are the latest listed on the links you posted. I assumed that the Gladiator_MCG firmware would be correct, but that is not the firmware I've been told to use above, so I wanted to check.

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Re: Can't flash or calibrate MCG grip on Gladiator Pro Mk II base.

Postby Ron61 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 16:03

And what is here? And here?

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Re: Can't flash or calibrate MCG grip on Gladiator Pro Mk II base.

Postby Griphos » Thu Apr 16, 2020 16:06

Nothing. When I click those links I get a page that says those files don't exist anymore.

Shouldn't you have the same files on both the OneDrive and the Mega pages? Only the Mega pages work for me.


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