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Usage of Gladiator-Stick electronics in 3d-Printed Stick

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 0:46
by PeeJott
Hi VKB-Team.
I would like to buy a gladiator base + stick and use the electronics side of the a Gladiator-Stick (most likely Cosima or the WWII) in a 3d-printed B-8 (century-series) Grip.
The Grip will have 2 4-way hat-switches, 2 Buttons and a two stage trigger (another 2 buttons).
My idea is to use the electronics-side and the Gladiator-twist-adapter in the B-8 Grip. My question now is: is it possible to connect very standard buttons and hat-switches (I know, soldering will be necessary)
to the plugs that go onto the little circuit-boards that are in theGrip?
The buttons and switches are normally usable with a 4021 (or was it 4020??) shift register. That shift-register will most likely not work with the gladiator base, as I've discovered, so I'd like to go a road that ensures that on the electronics side, everthing will work out.
I've already seen, that some (or a lot) of buttons are pressed on little boards already. Is there a "main-board" in the gladiator-sticks that does all the work an where all inputs are gathered together and get passed on to the base?
Cheers and thanks for your help,
Paul.

Re: Usage of Gladiator-Stick electronics in 3d-Printed Stick

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2025 12:01
by Alex Oz
Hi,

The SCG grip does not use a register connection, also ain't use a diode matrix.
Only use of complete electronic boards is possible.

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Re: Usage of Gladiator-Stick electronics in 3d-Printed Stick

Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2025 16:28
by PeeJott
@alex

And in the WWII-Stick it looks the same? So no chance connecting other buttons to a "main-board" and using that together with a gladiator base?

I would really like to use the B-8 grip together with the Gladiator base.

Any ideas how that can be acconlished?

I'm talking about this grip here:

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5764003

Cheers,
Paul

Re: Usage of Gladiator-Stick electronics in 3d-Printed Stick

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 21:11
by Delta
Only the old model of WW2 grip had a more compact board. If you want to do your own grip and only need button inputs, maybe the Warthog adapter and some 4021 shift registers (74HC165 and the likes probably won't work) might be an option.

Re: Usage of Gladiator-Stick electronics in 3d-Printed Stick

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 23:40
by PeeJott
Ah, I thought about that already as well, but that will be two boards floating around in the stick. I had my hopes up something would work "out of the box" with the gladiator base. I guess VKB did not use Black-MAgic to create it?

Re: Usage of Gladiator-Stick electronics in 3d-Printed Stick

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2025 23:43
by PeeJott
Alex Oz wrote:Hi,

The SCG grip does not use a register connection, also ain't use a diode matrix.
Only use of complete electronic boards is possible.

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Is there any other way getting the Grip with standard buttons and two hat-switches to work with the Gladiator base? The TM-Adapter kind of adapts 4021-Shift-Register-Outputs to work with VKB-Bases.
Is there something similiar for the Gladiator base? Or is there a board that works "out-of-the-box" with the Gladiator base? I'm not shy of soldering something together but if I start the process it would be nice to know if ot has a chance to work ;-)

Cheers,
Paul