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Re: Anyway to replace GF mk1 with mk2

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 21:35
by Daniel
depending on price i would like to convert my stuff to MK2, im kinda worried that the limited run of MK1 will limit my options for the future.

Re: Anyway to replace GF mk1 with mk2

Posted: Tue May 01, 2018 18:37
by orlaag
Same here, especially with the availability on regular stock items and Euro delays, it'd be much much easier being able to order none specialist items in future and just get the regular run item. Even without a ready made adapter I'd be willing to DIY the change myself just for the future proof and future sales ease as not sure I' be willing to wait with all the lack of comms and uncertainty for future grips if I need to order a specialist one but would have more confidence in regular item, plus could use global if Euro ever failed to stock grip upgrades and twist adapters in future.

Re: Anyway to replace GF mk1 with mk2

Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 19:46
by Slims
But i was wondering, is there really no way to simply switch the contacts using one from one of these warthog adapters ?

Re: Anyway to replace GF mk1 with mk2

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 14:49
by aniron
Eduard VKB FSC wrote:Let me discuss it internally. However, I do not see a reason to not produce rev.A version of the new grips. Rev A and B grips use the same components, they are electrically fully compatible.


Any news on the status of either Rev A MCG (Pro) or standalone Rev B MCG (Pro) plus a connector conversion kit for the EU store?

Re: Anyway to replace GF mk1 with mk2

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 15:57
by Eduard VKB FSC
Guys, I would like to clarify VKB policy on rev.A connector.

The grips will be produced with rev.A connector including any upcoming new ones. Due to limited amount of customers with rev.A connectors, those grips will be sold on reservation/pre-order base. Some amount might be available for purchase from the stock but better to not count on that. Price and other conditions are exactly the same as for rev.B grips.

Converting the grip from rev.A to rev.B socket is not recommended. It requires not only good skills but also special tools and, from our opinion, it does not make sense to do it yourself unless you really like DYI type of activity. And, it is also important, it will void a warranty.

Re: Anyway to replace GF mk1 with mk2

Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 20:29
by Daniel
Thanks for the update Eduard.
Although I think I would have preferred a kit to swap to a Rev its good to see we get a chance to pre-order upcoming grips

Re: Anyway to replace GF mk1 with mk2

Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 18:08
by Andy
Eduard VKB FSC wrote:Converting the grip from rev.A to rev.B socket is not recommended. It requires not only good skills but also special tools and, from our opinion, it does not make sense to do it yourself unless you really like DYI type of activity. And, it is also important, it will void a warranty.


Eduard, this might not be recommended or make good sense, but what choice do we have? Wait another few months to get told again, wait another few months. This perpetual wait is really frustrating, and I really cannot see why we still have to wait to even pre order, especially if these models have been produced. I mean they must have been produced because they have sold revA grips on the aliexpress site. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/VKB-Sim-MCG-Pro-Rev-A-for-Gunfighter-MkI-Joystick-English-version/32847792580.html

Does VKB want to make money or are they doing this for love or something?

Why cannot VKB accept they have messed early adopters about, and sort us revA customers out?

Re: Anyway to replace GF mk1 with mk2

Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 9:00
by Eduard VKB FSC
Andy wrote:Eduard, this might not be recommended or make good sense, but what choice do we have? Wait another few months to get told again, wait another few months. This perpetual wait is really frustrating, and I really cannot see why we still have to wait to even pre order, especially if these models have been produced.
Pre-order functionality is not yet introduced on the website. As soon as it is deployed, rev. A MCG will be the first thing to offer.

Andy wrote:I mean they must have been produced because they have sold revA grips on the aliexpress site. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/VKB-Sim-MCG-Pro-Rev-A-for-Gunfighter-MkI-Joystick-English-version/32847792580.html
Indeed, it is also a possibility to buy it now from Aliexpress and get the item directly from China. Or, buy it from EU store in August/September.

In general, availability of new products in EU store is delaying for 1-2 month due to logistics. Aliexpress is a possibility to get them earlier.

Andy wrote:Does VKB want to make money or are they doing this for love or something?
Why cannot VKB accept they have messed early adopters about, and sort us revA customers out?
I mentioned in the other posts already that we learned it now that the way we introduced MCG was too bumpy and brought quite some frustrations due to delays. VKB manufacturing was not on the full speed last few month as it moved to the new building. But still, even running on the full capacity it does not guarantee that initial demand will be fulfilled.

The process will be definitely changed for new products. Also, VKB FSC Europe will organize pre-ordering better.

Re: Anyway to replace GF mk1 with mk2

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:43
by redribbon
How about selling parts, to be more specific selling rev a/b conector for grip and the base so we can change it by ourself.

Re: Anyway to replace GF mk1 with mk2

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:26
by Eduard VKB FSC
redribbon wrote:How about selling parts, to be more specific selling rev a/b conector for grip and the base so we can change it by ourself.
Hi redribbon,
We do not plan to sell parts to convert rev.A into rev.B. It is not possible to modify a base and a grip at home without special tools and materials. The plans are to produced a rev.A variant of all new grips.

Re: Anyway to replace GF mk1 with mk2

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:07
by redribbon
Eduard VKB FSC wrote:
redribbon wrote:How about selling parts, to be more specific selling rev a/b conector for grip and the base so we can change it by ourself.
Hi redribbon,
We do not plan to sell parts to convert rev.A into rev.B. It is not possible to modify a base and a grip at home without special tools and materials. The plans are to produced a rev.A variant of all new grips.

I'm happy as long rev.A left hand MCG arrives!

Re: Anyway to replace GF mk1 with mk2

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:37
by Eduard VKB FSC
Hello,
the pre-ordering for MCG rev.A is started today.

https://flightsimcontrols.com/product/m ... ket-rev-a/

Re: Anyway to replace GF mk1 with mk2

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 2:38
by Eduard VKB FSC
redribbon wrote:I'm happy as long rev.A left hand MCG arrives!
I would expect left hand SCG this year :)