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Re: Gun fighter/VKB noob question!

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:18
by redribbon
Dragonbait wrote:Thanks for that, I had read enough to not use the Windows calibration, I have stuck to VKB software only :)
Which of the cams do you think would be better for Starcitizen?
What "weight" are the springs that are installed by default? I have seen them only called "normal", but was thinking of moving up one level, but the included springs use the number system.

Really liking the quality of the stick, and the peddles are perfect!

-#10 cams are installed by default
-#30 springs are installed by default

#30 cams have better centering with less force/springs.
I preffer #30cams with #30 (maybe even 40) springs.
Play a little a see what suits you the best!
You don't need to remove #30 springs, you can just add another pair of #10/20 springs.
But #30 cams are way to go in my opinion.
So my final setup is; #30 cams, #30 spring on roll and #30+10 springs on pitch.

Re: Gun fighter/VKB noob question!

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 18:44
by Dragonbait
Thanks Redribbon, I will give that a go.
Is there a proper instruction manual anywhere showing how to switch the cams?

Re: Gun fighter/VKB noob question!

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 19:32
by redribbon
There is only one nut and bolt that holds cam, before you remove it look careful how was installed.
There is a vid in manuals section here on forum but it is done on mamba which is almost the same.
It is easy, hardest part is remove and install >30 springs.
Tools needed are those who came with GF.

Re: Gun fighter/VKB noob question!

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 19:35
by redribbon
Here is a vid how to install them;
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=2335

Re: Gun fighter/VKB noob question!

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 20:24
by Dragonbait
So now I'm stuck/worried, followed the video as best I could (it's for the gladiator, not the gunfighter).
Took out the first bolt underneath the dust cap, turns out it was just screwed into a nut the other side, not into the gimbal unit, so I now have no way to screw it back in.

I really wish these guys would produce a manual, if I break this because it has no manual I will not be happy!

Re: Gun fighter/VKB noob question!

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 21:30
by redribbon
There is always way to fix things, just take a picture of nut and bolt you have problem with and mayve i can help you. I'm aircraft maintenance engineer and for us there is always solution ;)
Also i can make a video showing how to change cams and springs. I'll post it here tomorrow!
Don't give up, it is beautiful peice of hardware once you set it to your needs!

Re: Gun fighter/VKB noob question!

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:40
by redribbon
I hope this will help you;
Step 1: remove grip
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Step 2: remove tabletop plate
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Step 3: remove rubber dust cover (unscrew 5-6 bolts)
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Continue on the next post bellow

Re: Gun fighter/VKB noob question!

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:47
by redribbon
Step 4: dissconnect connector with wires from housing (just unplug white connector)
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Re: Gun fighter/VKB noob question!

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:55
by redribbon
Step 5: unscrew 4 outer bolts from housing (top plate) and remove gimball
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Re: Gun fighter/VKB noob question!

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:59
by redribbon
Step 6: remove springs from cams
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Re: Gun fighter/VKB noob question!

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:08
by redribbon
Step 7: unscrew cams and replace them with #30 cams
Use tools that came with joystick
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Re: Gun fighter/VKB noob question!

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:14
by redribbon
Also after you set it up by your needs you'll need to calibrate joystick.
Follow every step from here
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=2646

Re: Gun fighter/VKB noob question!

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:11
by Dragonbait
Thanks RedRibbon, that is awesome!