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F-14 Stick in DCS - trim wanders

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 21:12
by OBrandenburg
Using my VKB F-14-stick on the Heatblur F-14 in DCS.
Every now and then I noticed the trim wandering away without touching the coolie hat (that I have the trim assigned to) after flying for a while...
I still need to investigate further, but can this be a hardware-issue, maybe?
Or is there something I can try out in the DevCfg-Sorftware?
What do you think?
Thanks for your ideas and input!

Re: F-14 Stick in DCS - trim wanders

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2021 23:55
by fallout9
In order to have the trim activated a button must get pressed. When this is happening in game alt-tab to a tester and see if there's any input from the hat buttons. If there is, then there's something wrong with the hat switch. If there's not, then it must be a game setting (check if the trim is properly bound to digital and not analog).

Re: F-14 Stick in DCS - trim wanders

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:31
by OBrandenburg
Thanks, fallout.
First of all, can you please explain what you mean by trim to be bound "digitally" and not "anlog"?

Then, allow me to give more details:

DCS has the possibility to show axis-/flight-control-inputs (Joystick, Throttle, Rudder) ingame by pressing Rctrl+Enter. I'll come back to that in a second...

In-game (DCS Controls key-binds/assigns - not DevCfg) I have assigned trim to the VKB stick's coolie hat. (In DevCfg I have been resetting/calibrating the stick beforehand - but no more than that.)

After flying the F-14 for a while (and everything - icluding trim - working fine) my plane was starting to pitch up. I could not counter that by pushing the stick fully forward...
I hit Rctrl+Enter and it showed the positions of all my axis where they should be EXCEPT the trim at a rear right position (=> pitch up and right bank) without me having touched the hat for a while. (see screenie attached - the small diamond to the lower right shows the trim's position... I was pushing the stick fully forward (big diamond at the very top of its axis) to regain control of the aircraft at that moment.)

Btw.: to my knowledge Alt+Tab doesn't work in DCS (can that be?) - so I don't know how I could check if any of the coolie positions were been triggered at that moment... Anyhow by using the coolie hat, I might be able to re-position the trim back to neutral (I will have to check that again) - that would mean that the trim was changed "at once" and not by a constant coolie hat's input.
Can that be? THAT (to me) would sound like a hardware-related thing and not something in DCS...
What do you think?

Anything else that I could check or try? Any input is much appreciated.

Thanks
Oliver


Question: does my thread belong here or should better be moved to the Tech Support-section of the forum???

Re: F-14 Stick in DCS - trim wanders

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:02
by OBrandenburg
Update: yesterday I had same issue again. Not AS bad as before, though: trim just went to the right - actually it WAS at the right side from one moment to the other, not wandering.
I tried resetting the trim by using the coolie hat - but nothing happened!

Found out that Alt-Tab works well with the sim in pause.

Went to the DevCfg and found the coolie did not register movements for a second or two, then came back to life.

Very strange! :?


Then: guess this really belongs to the Tech Support. :arrow: Will you please move it there? Thanks!