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Star Citizen pilot requesting no-center cams for Gunfighter!

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 0:29
by Ez1
Greetings pilots!

I am a very active Star Citizen combat pilot going by the handle of Ez1. After using a T16000m and then a Gladiator Mk.2, I've very recently purchased my 3rd right-hand joystick, a Gunfighter Mk.3 with a Kosmosima grip. While the base and the grip are amazing and I love almost everything about them, I understand that the closest I can get to a center-less cam profile are the soft-center space cams with light springs (currently installed). Target tracking in space sims where pitch and yaw speeds are identical can benefit a lot from center-less cams. I believe this heavily contributes to the popularity of the T16000m within the space sim community as it uses a ball joint with a single spring, a crude yet effective center-less mechanism.

I've spoken with a a very helpful VKB representative on the HOTAS discord who goes by the name of Papastratos. I asked about no-center cams and he informed me that they are currently under development! Several other people in the VKB channel immediately expressed interest in the purchase of a set of these cams.

We would appreciate if development for no-center cams was prioritized. Thank you!

Re: Star Citizen pilot requesting no-center cams for Gunfighter!

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:10
by TheFace
No center is a great option. Other applications would be helicopters.

Re: Star Citizen pilot requesting no-center cams for Gunfighter!

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:42
by MajorStewie
I have legacy cams and after trying out the s space one I want back to them because they have no feeling of detents in the middle. Which I prefer.

Re: Star Citizen pilot requesting no-center cams for Gunfighter!

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:03
by GreenUranium
They confirmed that they will be releasing these in this Reddit post here I believe.
https://www.reddit.com/r/hotas/comments ... _in_masks/

"Also, after we're back we're going to produce another batch of WH adapters for our bases, and one more set of no-center cams, as we were asked."

Re: Star Citizen pilot requesting no-center cams for Gunfighter!

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 19:06
by Ez1
Hello all!

Any updates on the no-center space cams?

Re: Star Citizen pilot requesting no-center cams for Gunfighter!

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:33
by denonsix
Wondering this as well- any updates?

Re: Star Citizen pilot requesting no-center cams for Gunfighter!

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:46
by jmoney
I would be interested in these as well.

Re: Star Citizen pilot requesting no-center cams for Gunfighter!

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 2:31
by Ez1
Bumping this thread for interest. You guys have developed and released an entire new grip since this post was first created but there's still no news on the centerless cams. At this point I am heavily considering moving to Virpil because this is a product they already offer.

Re: Star Citizen pilot requesting no-center cams for Gunfighter!

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 23:31
by InfiniteChimp
I would also like to express my interest in no-center linear style cams. I am a heli pilot in DCS and also enjoy space sims.
I was under the impression that the soft-center space cams would fit my needs but alas they have not. Useful for throttle/engines, not for aim.

Thanks!

Re: Star Citizen pilot requesting no-center cams for Gunfighter!

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:02
by denonsix
I'm also still looking forward to these for my space sim usage. The grips/bases are great, but these centerless cams are still sorely missed.

Re: Star Citizen pilot requesting no-center cams for Gunfighter!

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 15:52
by AstroNomad
Adding my voice here, I am also eager to get no-center cams seeing as the Space-S is still a bit clunky for pitch/yaw space games.

Re: Star Citizen pilot requesting no-center cams for Gunfighter!

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 15:53
by AstroNomad
MajorStewie wrote:I have legacy cams and after trying out the s space one I want back to them because they have no feeling of detents in the middle. Which I prefer.


By legacy cams, do you mean the old "10" cams? No center but progressive ("avia") resistance towards the end of an axis?

Re: Star Citizen pilot requesting no-center cams for Gunfighter!

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:27
by WLWL
No-center cams PLEASE
For the old but beautiful Gladiator MK2 base too, please

Re: Star Citizen pilot requesting no-center cams for Gunfighter!

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 1:40
by fallout9
Sorry man, both Gladiator MKII and NXT use a different system than the GunFighter bases, a system based on pinchers and not cams; this system is not adjustable more than spring level, so no cams could ever come for the Gladiators :(

Re: Star Citizen pilot requesting no-center cams for Gunfighter!

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 2:06
by WLWL
Oh i see the real difference now between these models... Is there a way to get no-centre feeling with pinchers?

need to correct myself: is there a way to lower resistance near center when move between axes?