Not real support request but a possible bug report.
I understand I may be pushing the bounds of the Boolean feature of the VKBDevCfg Device Configurator v0.93.43. I used every Boolean slot available to created a state machine to toggle LEDs off and on to represent when flares and rockets are available in the attack helicopter in BF6. I have been playing BF6 with this configuration file posted and its works really well, there is just some issues I had to work around and wanted to report.
In Bf6 rockets respawn at 16 seconds and reload of rockets takes 2 seconds.
If I want to make a 16 sec timer that activates after 4 clicks (no overrun) I should be able to do the following:
Now what is interesting is Box 11 to 13 runs just shy of 16 seconds about 0.3 seconds shy but not every time its odd, but box 16 to 18 run perfectly for 16 sec every time. A solution I found was adding an additional gate with no delay function.
For what ever reason the set up below both timers now run at 16 seconds exactly.
Again I run into the same issue with the reload timers. Box 22 I have to add 0.3 sec to get 2 seconds but in box 27, 2 seconds gives me 2 seconds.
The other bug I noticed is the 2nd 16 second timer M count in box 16 does not reset then when its reset is triggered from P5 (my timer reset button to hard reset everything back to its default state). I have P5 mapped to P97, P98,P99, and P100 in box 2. If P113 is High then I press button 5 then P98 goes High which does trigger P113 to go low, but the moment I release button P5, P113 goes high again and the 16 second timer starts from the beginning. All my other timers (M counts and RS triggers) reset when P5 is pressed. Its odd.
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Firmware 2.19.9 possible bug on Gladiator NXT EVO
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Re: Firmware 2.19.9 possible bug on Gladiator NXT EVO
wow... something incredible
I haven't looked into the details yet—I'll first add the pulse time to the Boolean values to 25 seconds.
Then we'll try to optimize the circuit—it's better to use direct inputs and outputs of the Boolean values without using buttons.
Then maybe I'll figure out how it should work
I haven't looked into the details yet—I'll first add the pulse time to the Boolean values to 25 seconds.
Then we'll try to optimize the circuit—it's better to use direct inputs and outputs of the Boolean values without using buttons.
Then maybe I'll figure out how it should work
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Re: Firmware 2.19.9 possible bug on Gladiator NXT EVO
oh, interesting, your saying I should use the Boolean layer option? I looked into to that but only briefly.
I also see now the 2nd thing I reported has already been reported.
Thank you for taking a look at this!
I also see now the 2nd thing I reported has already been reported.
Thank you for taking a look at this!
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Re: Firmware 2.19.9 possible bug on Gladiator NXT EVO
Sample of optimization:
Rebuild your config and let's continue
When Poll is checked you can see active levels in Booleans for debugging:
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Re: Firmware 2.19.9 possible bug on Gladiator NXT EVO
ok so i pulled VKB Config V0.93.85 but I do not see a firmware 2.20.D I do see a 2.20.C2 that was uploaded 20 hours ago.
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oops - check again
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Re: Firmware 2.19.9 possible bug on Gladiator NXT EVO
WOW perfect. Thank you so much!
Ok so I made the changes you described and I also had to change in box 29, input L98 to B17 and it all works perfectly. I also changed the 2.3 sec timer to 2 sec. I think the issue with the 2.3 sec timer was not real, and is a game UI issue. I can fire rockets before the Game UI shows I can, but only when I have rockets in 2nd slot.
I then changed B17 back to L98 and all the timing still works perfectly. That being said I think I may opt to keep L98 in place of B17 so i can still trigger the reset of 16 sec timer 2 from P5.
As for the 2nd issue I reported, that is also fixed. If I leave L98 as L98 and if I press P5 the 2nd 16 sec timer now resets.
One last note, now that I have a better understanding of the Boolean option, from a user stand point could you make the free button output option also have a number selection option?
Ok so I made the changes you described and I also had to change in box 29, input L98 to B17 and it all works perfectly. I also changed the 2.3 sec timer to 2 sec. I think the issue with the 2.3 sec timer was not real, and is a game UI issue. I can fire rockets before the Game UI shows I can, but only when I have rockets in 2nd slot.
I then changed B17 back to L98 and all the timing still works perfectly. That being said I think I may opt to keep L98 in place of B17 so i can still trigger the reset of 16 sec timer 2 from P5.
As for the 2nd issue I reported, that is also fixed. If I leave L98 as L98 and if I press P5 the 2nd 16 sec timer now resets.
One last note, now that I have a better understanding of the Boolean option, from a user stand point could you make the free button output option also have a number selection option?
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Re: Firmware 2.19.9 possible bug on Gladiator NXT EVO
The Boolean's output has its own number.
Use this number for other Boolean's inputs:
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ohhhh interesting. Thank you for explaining that!
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Trick:
You will see file "booleans.jpg" in actual dir
Use it for taking notes and drawing connections
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Re: Firmware 2.19.9 possible bug on Gladiator NXT EVO
Thank you that is a really nice feature. I currently have handful of 11x17 draft paper because I had to draw it all out on to get my head straight when I was making the state machine. I also just wanted to check back in on this. I do not have enough data points yet to provide any good feedback. What I can say is at some point I had to increase the 16 second timer to get 16 seconds I think it was as high at 16.6 at one pint but now I am back down to 16 giving me 16 seconds. It feels like it changes the more I use the set and save buttons, but all my prior hypothesis have been wrong. I have tried a handful of different ideas like maybe down grading the firmware then going back to the custom one you made for me would fix the issue but it did not. Like I said I need more data points and that will come with time. Maybe in a few more months from now as I continue to use the device and make little changes here of there I will have enough data points to provide good feed back.
On another note, I just want to say I was so blown away with the level of support here I end up also buying a S-TECS from you guys. This level of support made that decision easy for me. Which lead me to a follow up question I see you have T-link in the official downloads page (https://www.vkbcontrollers.com/pages/downloads) but why not Z-link / VKB-link? Is VKB-link 0.7.6 the most stable?
On another note, I just want to say I was so blown away with the level of support here I end up also buying a S-TECS from you guys. This level of support made that decision easy for me. Which lead me to a follow up question I see you have T-link in the official downloads page (https://www.vkbcontrollers.com/pages/downloads) but why not Z-link / VKB-link? Is VKB-link 0.7.6 the most stable?
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Re: Firmware 2.19.9 possible bug on Gladiator NXT EVO
Official versions are quite rigid. Using new versions, you get more. If you find any issues, you can provide feedback and have them resolved.
VKB-Link v0.7.6 is newer
VKB-Link v0.7.6 is newer
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Thank you Alex. Just wanted to update you as I now have more data points. I will also admit I have not changed over to using Boolean vs physical buttons and who knows maybe that will resolve this issue. This is on my list of things to try in the long run. What i can tell you is if I get the timing right adjusting for some background offset in timing it stays perfect so long as i do not use the set button again. The offset in timing does feel like it slowly gets worse or slowly gets better based on how many times I use the set button. Also most like there is some (time + 0.0X). It does not feel like the offset X jumps around but slowly moves one way or another, almost like a counter of many times I use the Set button. I am unsure if the offset in timing jumps back to 0 after some number of times using the set button or if it slowly goes up then slowly goes back down. Maybe once I a decide to update my profile and have to readjust the offset timing I will get you a number of how many Set buttons presses it takes to go from zero offset in timing all the way back to zero offset in timing.
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Re: Firmware 2.19.9 possible bug on Gladiator NXT EVO
New in the configurator - you can assign color groups to highlight the functionality of different logic circuits
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