Hat Switch A1 not working properly on Gunfighter MK3 with Kosmosima Grip

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Hat Switch A1 not working properly on Gunfighter MK3 with Kosmosima Grip

Postby bravoleader » Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:04

1 - Device model and version
Gunfighter MK3 With Kosmosima Grip
2 - Controller Firmware version
HID-compliant game controller
Product Name: VKBsim Space Gunfighter
PRO version
T-Link supported
Firmware version: v2.025
Rudder On
3 - Number and type of springs used
1 Sprint on each cam, #10
4 - Тype of cams used
Space-S
5 - If VKB original software is used, please always mention its version
VKB Device config V0.92.17

If the question is in regards to joystick/pedals axes, please additionally post:
6 - Vkbjoytester screenshots. Download it here: http://ftp.vkb-sim.pro/Programms/VKB_JoyTester.zip
7 - Vkbdevcfg-c screenshots. Download it here: http://ftp.vkb-sim.pro/Programms/; make sure you're downloading the newest version.

Hello Guys.
I'm having an issue with the hat switch that I have installed on my Kosmosima on the A1 position. Basically 2 directions (right and bottom) out of the 5 are not working properly. Every now and then I'm able to trigger right but bottom does not work at all when I move the hat in that direction. Is there anything specifically I should check or it is safe to assume the switch is just defective. I have to admit I don't remember if the functionality of this hat degraded over time because after I installed it swapping out the analog axis I didn't really use as I've been using the SEM for some of the features I decided to move to the stick.
Thanks for any hint.

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Re: Hat Switch A1 not working properly on Gunfighter MK3 with Kosmosima Grip

Postby bravoleader » Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:07

When checking in the software, In the buttons tab, I move the hat and no light comes up in the list of the buttons. I don't have any major config impacting those buttons. I would expect bthem to work all the same but for those 2 directions there's no red light coming up

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Re: Hat Switch A1 not working properly on Gunfighter MK3 with Kosmosima Grip

Postby fallout9 » Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:26

Firmware is over 1 year old and software is the most recent, so they don't match. Please flash to the latest following this guide.

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Re: Hat Switch A1 not working properly on Gunfighter MK3 with Kosmosima Grip

Postby bravoleader » Mon Jan 17, 2022 14:50

Updated and still the button 17 and 18 are not being pressed. I do not think it is a software issue, more an hardware one.
anything else I can try?

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Re: Hat Switch A1 not working properly on Gunfighter MK3 with Kosmosima Grip

Postby Ron61 » Mon Jan 17, 2022 22:05

In the Profile-Buttons tab, activate the Poll checkbox and move the HAT to make sure that the buttons are physically activated in all positions.

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Re: Hat Switch A1 not working properly on Gunfighter MK3 with Kosmosima Grip

Postby bravoleader » Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:00

Hello Ron, that's what I'm trying to say...
I've been doing this and left,top and 'press' result in a key pressed while right and down do not leave any trace. It seems like they do not give any signal

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Re: Hat Switch A1 not working properly on Gunfighter MK3 with Kosmosima Grip

Postby bravoleader » Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:40

I made a video this afternoon

https://youtu.be/6JiW-LaV15I

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Re: Hat Switch A1 not working properly on Gunfighter MK3 with Kosmosima Grip

Postby Ron61 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:22

In this case, it remains only to check the buttons for a short circuit on the removed module with a tester. This will make sure that the module is clearly inoperable, and not something else.

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Re: Hat Switch A1 not working properly on Gunfighter MK3 with Kosmosima Grip

Postby bravoleader » Tue Jan 18, 2022 13:26

I do have a tester and I should be able to disassemble the stick again. What and how should I do to check this?

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Re: Hat Switch A1 not working properly on Gunfighter MK3 with Kosmosima Grip

Postby Ron61 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 14:09

The module was clamped in a vice (for the convenience of moving the rod) and measured the resistance between the points. Two extreme pins together and single:
nothing pressed - 2k5,
in pitch -1k7
roll - 1k4.
HAT buttons check 1 .jpg
HAT buttons check.jpg

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Re: Hat Switch A1 not working properly on Gunfighter MK3 with Kosmosima Grip

Postby bravoleader » Tue Jan 18, 2022 14:35

I do have another hat switch coming from the parts I have from a Gladiator NXT. Can I use these parts on the Gunfighter? My understanding is that the Grip is the same so I should be able to use it. Correct?

I'm not sure I understand those numbers though. Care to explain the meaning of 2k5, 1k7 and 1k4?
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Re: Hat Switch A1 not working properly on Gunfighter MK3 with Kosmosima Grip

Postby Ron61 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 14:56

It's simple - it's kiloohms. Don't bother with it, just select the 20k range on your multimeter when measuring and you should see numbers like this.
The handles are the same and the modules too.
20k.jpg

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Re: Hat Switch A1 not working properly on Gunfighter MK3 with Kosmosima Grip

Postby bravoleader » Tue Jan 18, 2022 15:01

To have the hat in a workable state while I find this out, is that ok if a use the hat switch from the gladiator spare parts to use it on the gunfighter?

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Re: Hat Switch A1 not working properly on Gunfighter MK3 with Kosmosima Grip

Postby Ron61 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 15:07

I repeat - the GNX and SCG grips are the same. And the HAT modules are interchangeable.

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Re: Hat Switch A1 not working properly on Gunfighter MK3 with Kosmosima Grip

Postby bravoleader » Tue Jan 18, 2022 16:02

sorry I did not see it mentioned anywhere, thanks for confirming this.

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