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Please help! Connecting Ultimate Grip with a twist to T-Rudders

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 0:43
by Alpine Gypsy
Hello,

I am sorry, if I am asking a retarded question, but I am new to this, so please be patient =)

I recently purchased an Ultimate Grip with a twist and a set of T-Rudder pedals.

They both work great when connected to separate black boxes, but when I try to connect pedals to the same black box as the grip, it does not seem to register.

When I open T-Link, it does not show the pedals are connected.

Could anyone please explain to me what the procedure is for connecting T-Rudder pedals and Ultimate grip to the same black box.

Any input is greatly appriciated.

Timur

Re: Please help! Connecting Ultimate Grip with a twist to T-Rudders

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 0:54
by fallout9
The rudders won't work on a MCG Pro/U with twist module by default, simply because it would exceed Windows' 8 axes limitation per device. If you want to use them in the same black box with the MCG U you could either flash the bb with the 'no twist' firmware and lock the twist, or (a bit more complicated) reassign one of ministicks' axes to the rudders. In the first case, after flashing the 'no twist' firmware and plugging the rudders in the same bb you'll have to calibrate the joystick AND the rudders (the rudders will replace twist's axis).

Re: Please help! Connecting Ultimate Grip with a twist to T-Rudders

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:03
by Alpine Gypsy
Thanks a lot! Makes perfect sense. Appreciate quick reply <3

Re: Please help! Connecting Ultimate Grip with a twist to T-Rudders

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 0:02
by bamaj12
How would I go about reassigning one mini stick axis to my rudder pedals? I have the same setup, mcg ultimate with twist and t-rudders.

I've read the manual and tried a few different things with no luck. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Re: Please help! Connecting Ultimate Grip with a twist to T-Rudders

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 0:45
by fallout9
Which ministick, which axis you want to forward to the rudders?

Re: Please help! Connecting Ultimate Grip with a twist to T-Rudders

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 0:56
by bamaj12
I replaced the top/center mini stick with the hat switch, so either of those 2. Would like to be able to use my rudders and twist at the same time.

Re: Please help! Connecting Ultimate Grip with a twist to T-Rudders

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:51
by Ron61
It is easy to do, knowing where and what is. I will show the default settings and next to the changed ones, for better understanding.
Let's replace the mini-stick module with a push-button HAT Master Mode and connect the pedals to the only BB GF.
This is the default setting for minis and axes. We turn off the ministik - he is no longer there.
External def.jpg
Off 3,4 axes.jpg

In the Axes, we set the pedals to the 3rd axis, turn off the 4th.
Axes Def.jpg
Axes 3,4.jpg

In the Buttons, delete uSSw for the first (MasterMode) mini-stick and make the switch for the second Gate Cont in the same way.
Buttons Phys Def.jpg
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uSSw POV2.jpg

Configuring the Button HAT.
Buttons Log Def.jpg
HAT Log.jpg
Log HAT.jpg

We declare two #POVs. And we set them up.
2 POVs.jpg
POVs Def.jpg
POVs.jpg

Change Led.
Leds.jpg

We write to the controller with the Set button and calibrate all axes, not forgetting about the pedals. Everything.
We even have one free axle (4) left, which allows us to make three-axle pedals from single-axle pedals (the so-called differential brakes).

Re: Please help! Connecting Ultimate Grip with a twist to T-Rudders

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:19
by bamaj12
Thanks for the detailed guide! Helped me understand how the software works better, but I tried this and it did not work for me. The POVs work as intended, but no input is detected from the rudder pedals. KdHi, KdLo and Bias changed for the other active axis after calibration, but axis 3 did not.

External device #1 GF Base is showing 50% communication error now as well.

To help trouble shoot, I attached the t-rudders to their own black box and everything worked. I would keep it that way but I only have 1 working USB cable. A replacement cable is on the way though.

Re: Please help! Connecting Ultimate Grip with a twist to T-Rudders

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:44
by Ron61
I would like to understand why the pedals did not work. Therefore, attach your customized profile here (in the archive) so that you can check it.

Re: Please help! Connecting Ultimate Grip with a twist to T-Rudders

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 20:51
by bamaj12
I think this is everything you are needing.

Re: Please help! Connecting Ultimate Grip with a twist to T-Rudders

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 22:03
by Ron61
Alternatively, you need to streamline the axes a little.
Move the second stick (5,6 axis) to the empty space from the first stick (3,4 axis). A twist from the 7th axis to 5 (5 and 6 are free).
stick 3-4, twist-5.jpg

We register the correct sensor on the 7th axis.
pedals-7.jpg

In POVs, we also connect to the correct ones. Recalibrate all axes.
2POVs -3,4 .jpg

Re: Please help! Connecting Ultimate Grip with a twist to T-Rudders

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 1:25
by bamaj12
That worked! Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!

Re: Please help! Connecting Ultimate Grip with a twist to T-Rudders

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:02
by Ron61
So that's great.