Gladiator Mk.II - Hat switch stopped working

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Gladiator Mk.II - Hat switch stopped working

Postby discophil » Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:52

1 - Gladiator Mk. II non pro
2 - 1.85B
3 - Vanilla Springs
4 - Vanilla Cams
5 - device config v0.87.05

Problem: Hat switch stopped working. Initially it it came back after some time and stopped responding again soon after. Now it is dead.

I tried:
- reset and recalibration in device config software
- taking everything apart and looked for bad wires. (Im no expert but wires look fine to me)

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Re: Gladiator Mk.II - Hat switch stopped working

Postby Victorus » Mon Jan 27, 2020 14:49

Please show screenshots of Button tabs - Logical and Physical.
Try to check Poll on Physical tab and push buttons and hat. Will you see responses?
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Re: Gladiator Mk.II - Hat switch stopped working

Postby discophil » Mon Jan 27, 2020 15:04

Thank you for fast reply.

I get response from buttons.
No response from hat switch.

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Re: Gladiator Mk.II - Hat switch stopped working

Postby Ron61 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 20:50

I advise you to update the firmware - in the header of the configurator itself, the minimum firmware guaranteed to work with this version of the configurator is explicitly mentioned. Take it here.

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Re: Gladiator Mk.II - Hat switch stopped working

Postby discophil » Mon Jan 27, 2020 21:06

I updated to firmware version 1.98.4.

Unfortunately the situation hasnt changed.

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Re: Gladiator Mk.II - Hat switch stopped working

Postby Ron61 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:13

What happens when the Poll checkbox is activated and you move the HAT in the Buttons tab, as Victorus advised?

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Re: Gladiator Mk.II - Hat switch stopped working

Postby discophil » Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:16

I get response from push buttons.
No response from hat switch (all directions)

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Re: Gladiator Mk.II - Hat switch stopped working

Postby Ron61 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:50

Does trigger, bomb and pinky work?

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Re: Gladiator Mk.II - Hat switch stopped working

Postby discophil » Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:03

Yes, all buttons work.

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Re: Gladiator Mk.II - Hat switch stopped working

Postby Ron61 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:24

Disassemble the KG12 and check the integrity and reliability of the HAT loop cable. Moreover, on both sides. I doubt very much that the 4 buttons are out of order at the same time.
When disassembling, take a photo - it helps a lot when reassembling.

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Re: Gladiator Mk.II - Hat switch stopped working

Postby discophil » Tue Jan 28, 2020 14:38

I disassembled it. To me it looks fine.

I tested again in physical buttons tab and still get no response from the hat switch. (all other buttons work)
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Re: Gladiator Mk.II - Hat switch stopped working

Postby Ron61 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 15:48

It remains to find out where the reason is on the HAT button board or on the controller board in the grip.
If there is a tester, then it will not be difficult to check the buttons on the HAT board.
And on the controller board in the grip, you can close the contact with tweezers to which the black wire comes with any other in the connector.
The response must be observed in the configurator in the Buttons tab and the activated Poll check-box.
Before that, it is worth resetting the default settings with the button in the configurator.

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Re: Gladiator Mk.II - Hat switch stopped working

Postby discophil » Tue Jan 28, 2020 17:12

So I plug in the joystick and use tweezers (not a special tool .. just normal tweezers) to close the connection between the pins on the connector on the pcb? At some point I should observe a response in the configurator? Did I understand correctly?

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Re: Gladiator Mk.II - Hat switch stopped working

Postby Ron61 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 18:19

Yes that's right. You can use 2 methods - both in the pictures. And the result of the closure of 2x extreme contacts.
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Re: Gladiator Mk.II - Hat switch stopped working

Postby discophil » Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:52

Thank you for posting these instructions. I did some testing on the pcb connector and wasnt able to get a response in the configurator. I guess this indicates there is something wrong with the connector on the pcb and the hat switch buttons may be fine.

If so is there some magic trick I can try to fix the connector?


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