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The pinky button on the SCG doesn't shift. How does pinky function ?

currently two botton and upper pinky is normal button , how to change to pinky?

aslo MODE button not working

lee1hy wrote:The pinky button on the SCG doesn't shift. How does pinky function ?

currently two botton and upper pinky is normal button , how to change to pinky?

May be change to Shift? If so look here https://1drv.ms/u/s!AkQlcss8yrCfhWDsFAX ... 2?e=cqOuhq
NJoy32 Family Controllers Configuration Utility User guide V. 2.11, 02.02.2019.
Section 4.3.5.
SHIFT1 / SHIFT2 / SHIFT0 modifiers
Shift
Description
Modifiers allow to multiply button number similarly to keyboard modifiers Shift, Ctrl,
Alt.
Parameters
Modifier parameters are shown in Button Mapping Wizard dialog (Fig. 4.11).
Track as button checkbox allows to use button with Shift function as simple but
ton too. In this case its parameters will be the same as for simple button (see 4.3.1
on p. 48). If checked then when you press SubShift it will modify dependent buttons
AND work as joystick button too.
Select shift mode from combo box (Fig. 4.11, 1).....

I don't really understand common sense, why not set it by default?

aslo mode 1 mode 2 not work switching RED-GREEN

It's not by default because after the upgrade you get 47 buttons on a Gladiator with a Kosmosima Premium and that would be more than enough for most people. If you want more you could assign either the Pinkie button or the Mode button as Shift buttons and set the other buttons as Shift activated buttons.

The interface of VKB is hard to understand. Please tell me how to set the pinky and mode buttons





Button X Buttons I've tried all but not

Please make screenshots pressing ALT+PrtScr. Given are not readable.
I have NO SCG, but settings for ALL VKB joysticks are similar.
Read User Guide (see my llink)
Run VKBDevCfg.exe.
Open Button - Physical tab, check Poll.
Press desired button, pinky for example. See red indicator.
Click this cell, set up button function (Shift0 for example)
Press Set.
Open External - LEDs tab, set one of LEDs (select event (Shift0), LED #, LED mode, colors etc.).
Press Set.
When you will MAKE those actions but nothing happens, take screenshots (ALT+PrtScr!!!) of all tabs you used, describe your step by step actions.
No need to say interface is difficult. It's known)
Do not forget: HOW TO request tech support viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2762

When I press the (SHIF, ButtonS, ButtonX) button, the test does not show two number for the button , but still only one button name , It should be button12,button52 for one button

setting any mode (shif, buttuon x, button s) on the button doesn't work at all, button has the same number in test

aslo LED not work, i think this program not working any programming button


if i set buttonX buttonS(BX), button is just for normal (result in (BX) button5, + other button shifting not work) , nothing shift key or any pinky function


buttonX, buttonS, SHIFT0, SHIFT1 do not work with ANY shift fucntion and are only recognized as a single button

!!!!!
When you will MAKE those actions but nothing happens, take screenshots (ALT+PrtScr!!!) of all tabs you used, describe your step by step actions.

take screenshots (ALT+PrtScr!!!) of all tabs you used,

If you do not want to open link

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Сообщение AeroGator » Чт сен 14, 2017 8:42
Dear Pilots,

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I finally found out. In conclusion, SCG does not have Pinky button hardware. pinky is not supported because there is no toggle type button that supports buttonX buttonS (there must be a button with a picture of a purrple button physically). buttonX and buttonS SHIFT0 SHIFT 1 must have a button hardware that supports two inputs of type toggle. All the SCG buttons are normal buttons, so there is no special pinky like kg12.

All buttons were recognized as normal buttons because there is no button that physically supports the shift function.


#1 42 #2 12 mean It is an additional button of the corresponding button, and each button should have a cyclic physical button that can input 2 # one is 42 button # 2 two is 12 button.


exmaple ) SHIFT 0 = basic button as normal button (its called track button) if uncheck trackbutton, mean disable button and shift like keybord
SHIFT 1 = shifing vitrual second button

SHIFT mean 2 button on one button, but VKB shift is shifing it self , not t doesn't interact with other buttons like a keyboard shift ,. this is why you guys and me dont understand my post

my want is shift+other interract as vitural two button = no support


but SCG has one button , (not supprot 2 vitrual button on one physic button)


KG12 and MCG has pinky too

http://i.imgur.com/wXEskES.png

SCG is NO (mapped all normal button, It cant edit as software )
It seems that vkb didn't care because it was an unpopular grip. Especially inconvenient pink button position at the bottom

So i will sold this grip and swtiching to TM

added : SCG + gladatior has only one shift button , its MODE 1, 2 Button it works shift fucntion, (but not interaction as normal gladatior base red-green swithing), but grip buttons are not function as SHIFT , physically not supported

added 2 : it must set all button as ButtonX for function shifting , becase not support physically pinky
mapped all button for shift function as buttonX and shift it self one button for SHIFT 0 1 cycle,alt,


crazy russia style

ANY VKB joystick button can be set as shift, subshift, keystroke, pulse generator, axis, toggle switch etc.))) User must think a little)))
Real crazy style)))
Be lucky with TM and TARGET software. Happy new year.

lee1hy wrote:I finally found out. In conclusion, SCG does not have Pinky button hardware. pinky is not supported because there is no toggle type button that supports buttonX buttonS (there must be a button with a picture of a purrple button physically). buttonX and buttonS SHIFT0 SHIFT 1 must have a button hardware that supports two inputs of type toggle. All the SCG buttons are normal buttons, so there is no special pinky like kg12.

All buttons were recognized as normal buttons because there is no button that physically supports the shift function.


#1 42 #2 12 mean It is an additional button of the corresponding button, and each button should have a cyclic physical button that can input 2 # one is 42 button # 2 two is 12 button.


exmaple ) SHIFT 0 = basic button as normal button (its called track button) if uncheck trackbutton, mean disable button and shift like keybord
SHIFT 1 = shifing vitrual second button

SHIFT mean 2 button on one button, but VKB shift is shifing it self , not t doesn't interact with other buttons like a keyboard shift ,. this is why you guys and me dont understand my post

my want is shift+other interract as vitural two button = no support


but SCG has one button , (not supprot 2 vitrual button on one physic button)


KG12 and MCG has pinky too

http://i.imgur.com/wXEskES.png

SCG is NO (mapped all normal button, It cant edit as software )
It seems that vkb didn't care because it was an unpopular grip. Especially inconvenient pink button position at the bottom

Maybe there's a language barrier here, and their software is very powerful which does make it a bit scary at first use, but don't be precipitous about selling unless you just really don't like the ergonomics (hand feel) of the grip and button placement. ANY button can gain multiple functions, including some sort of mode shift. ANY axis can be broken up into two, add button functions at the limits, etc. ANY button can provide virtual keyboard commands, even macros of many other commands. Take your time.

As the most simple example, this is a very old post but I showed how I added a second function to the same physical button using the "TEMPO" option (long press vs. short press) here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/hotas/comments ... ample_two/

If you want one button to act as a mode shift for all other buttons after being depressed, it is in the manual, I don't know the right command off the top of my head.

If I am misunderstanding and you want something like the keyboard "SHIFT" key as a button press, this thread might help: viewtopic.php?t=3342

And I really don't get what you mean about 'unpopular grip'. The Kosmosima SCG is fantastic. Sure, a few people don't like the pinky button as much as on other grips, that's a matter of taste and hand-feel. (I personally do.) But overall it has been very warmly received and I suspect is still selling very well, especially with the new GF III base.