Gunfighter doesn't align properly anymore after full deflection in X-axis

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Gunfighter doesn't align properly anymore after full deflection in X-axis

Postby flashben » Sat Dec 01, 2018 15:20

Hello,

I've been using the gunfighter for a little while and I've started noticing that it the X-axis doesn't return center anymore after pushing it more than 60% left. If I do a full deflection to the right it will go back to center.I
This only started happening recently and it's quite noticeable in all games I use the joystick for, and it's like the spring force is reseating something on the gimbal.
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I've tried swapping different cam types, checking the gimbal and bearings for binding, fully loosening the friction dampers, checking the pcb mounting screws, doing all 8 axis recalibrations with the VKB software and updating software and firmware.

Im using single #40 springs on both cams
30-cam on X-axis(still have the same centering issue with 10-cam)
No friction damping
Default deadzones/curves set in the software
VKB device config v0.88.89 and VKB gunfighter MCG pro V1.954

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Re: Gunfighter doesn't align properly anymore after full deflection in X-axis

Postby hon0 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 19:16

Same "problem" here. On Y axes too, but not as much. I think it is due to some automatic calibration (ACl tick box in profile) that still run after we "set" the device. I haven't messed yet with manual calibration, will report when I do.
VKB Devcie Config v0.91.26 - Firmware version: v1.994

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Re: Gunfighter doesn't align properly anymore after full deflection in X-axis

Postby flashben » Thu Dec 06, 2018 16:04

I have also mailed the vendor where I bought it from, but so far no reaction here and from the shop?

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Re: Gunfighter doesn't align properly anymore after full deflection in X-axis

Postby AeroGator » Fri Dec 07, 2018 14:37

flashben wrote:I have also mailed the vendor where I bought it from, but so far no reaction here and from the shop?

I have seen your message, will be back to you some time this weekend, latest Monday, if I don't give me a nudge.
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Re: Gunfighter doesn't align properly anymore after full deflection in X-axis

Postby AeroGator » Mon Dec 10, 2018 16:15

flashben wrote:I have also mailed the vendor where I bought it from

Do the simple test and let us see the results the same way you posted the picture above (screenshot):
1 - pull the grip all the way back (towards yourself) and LET GO.
("let go" means remove your hand from the grip and do NOT follow it on its way back)
2 - take a screenshot of this movement from the moment you pull till the moment the grip fully stops in whatever near-the-center position.
3 - do the same in all other directions: forward, left, and right.
Then please post these 4 screenshots here. Let me chew over that.
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Re: Gunfighter doesn't align properly anymore after full deflection in X-axis

Postby flashben » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:27

Hi AeroGator

as you can see on the first pic when deflecting fully in 1 way it recenters on a new point every time untill i do an opposite full deflection, weird thing is this only started showing up recently

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Re: Gunfighter doesn't align properly anymore after full deflection in X-axis

Postby flashben » Tue Dec 11, 2018 16:49

I thought I added a better illustration of my issue.
All is fine with 60% or less deflection, when i go over that, the center point goes offset and stays there untill i do a full deflection in the opposite direction.
This is with 30 hard center cams and a strong spring. Do i have bad bearings?

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Re: Gunfighter doesn't align properly anymore after full deflection in X-axis

Postby Ron61 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 19:51

Need a screenshot of the Profile-> Axes tab from the configurator.

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Re: Gunfighter doesn't align properly anymore after full deflection in X-axis

Postby flashben » Tue Dec 11, 2018 20:46

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Re: Gunfighter doesn't align properly anymore after full deflection in X-axis

Postby flashben » Tue Dec 11, 2018 20:58

I've also noticed that some bearings feel grindy when spring load is put on them

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Re: Gunfighter doesn't align properly anymore after full deflection in X-axis

Postby Ron61 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 23:04

Put here from 1 to 2 (do not forget to click Set after the change) and check again.

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Re: Gunfighter doesn't align properly anymore after full deflection in X-axis

Postby flashben » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:01

2 fixed it slightly, but I don't like having a temp fix like deadzones. and I have this stick for little bit over a year and this issue started showing up a week ago.
Is my stick damaged? i also noticed slight play before tension in the movement from center.

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Re: Gunfighter doesn't align properly anymore after full deflection in X-axis

Postby flashben » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:55

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This is with a 10 cam

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Re: Gunfighter doesn't align properly anymore after full deflection in X-axis

Postby flashben » Wed Dec 12, 2018 16:16

The X axis with 10 cams equipped has some center slop.

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Re: Gunfighter doesn't align properly anymore after full deflection in X-axis

Postby flashben » Thu Dec 13, 2018 16:57

It also doesn't return to center only from full left deflection without a stickgrip mounted.
Full right deflection to center repeatedly brings it back to value 32767. Is this a case of worn bearings, because it feels like something mechanically gets moved when doing a full left deflection


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