Warthog Adapter for Gladiator Pro - Installation Problems

[LeCuvier]

I have tried yesterday to install the Warthog adapter. The mechanical changes (spring and cam in the Gladiator Pro base) went well.
But I have terrible problems with the installation of the adapter in the Warthog grip.
Note: I did not see a guide for installing the WH adapter with the Gladiator Probase, so I used the one titled "How to install Warthog Adapter on Mamba"
1. Removing the original connector from the PCB (printed circuit board) was almost impossible. I could not pull it out with my fingers. I had to use small pincers and although I tried to be gentle, a pice of the connectors plastic broke off, and then one of the wires cme out. In the end I forced the connector out but it crumbled into amall pieces and the wires all came out.
This is obviously a TM quality problem, but it means that I will no longer be able to use the grip with its original TM base.
2. I plugged in the VKB adapter and tried to put the grip cover back on; but that was impossible, because of the extra PCB which is included in the WH adapter but not shown in the guide.
I'm talking about the small PCB with 3 wires at the base end and 5 wires at the TM end. I found it impossible to place this PCB in such a way that I could put the grip cover back on.
The extra PCB is not shown in the guide and without it I can see that it would be possible to put the grip cover back on.
Note: the TM stick is a relatively new one, delivered in 2016.
Please let me know how to get this done!

[Ron61]

And here it is not clear?
http://vkbcontrollers.com/?product=tm-warthog-adapter-for-gladiator-pro-quick-guide-2

[LeCuvier]

I decided to give it another try, and managed to get the adapter installed inside the grip. Uff!
Now I would like to run the config; but I'm not sure which version to use. I read posts on the forums about difficulties with this or that version, and I don't want to take risks.
Please let me know!
Thanks,
Hans-Werner

[Victorus]

You can find latest versions of firmware, software and profiles here http://ftp.vkb-sim.pro/.
Gladiator firmware http://ftp.vkb-sim.pro/Firmware/Gladiator/,
profiles http://ftp.vkb-sim.pro/Profiles/Gladiator/, light configuration tool WIZZO http://ftp.vkb-sim.pro/Programms/wizzo_v0_83.zip.

[LeCuvier]

Thanks Victorus, but there are multiple versions of most everything. Which versions do I have to use...
- Profile
- firmware
How do I load the firmware? I tried the program "FirmwareLoader.exe" but it tells me "Loader not found!". What is it looking for?
There needs to be a document that describes the process (which steps in which sequence) spelling out clearly which program(s) to use (incl. version) and which version of profile and firmware.

[Victorus]

Use the latest versions of firmware and software. Posts in this topic http://forum.vkb-sim.pro/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2355 solve the problem similar to your.
Try! I am awaiting for results.

[LeCuvier]

I tried both WIZZO v0_73 and v0_83.
In both cases when I opened [Advanced settings] and the clicked the red button labelled "Bootloader", I got the message "Jostick not found, please check the connection".
And when I hit [OK], WIZZO closed as expected and the red light on the joystick base was extinguished. I had to dis connect and re-connect the joystick each time to get the red light back on.

So, no progress made.

[Ron61]

Do it the way it is written http://forum.vkb-sim.pro/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2355#p23008, оnly version will be higher.

[LeCuvier]

Sokol on the DCS forum pointed me to a configurator version that allowed me to load firmware and profile. But I cannot get get any response from the buttons on the TMWH grip. It seems that there is a hardware problem, and I may have damaged the socket when I pulled out the connector of the wires that connect to the TMWH base. Or I have damaged something else in the process of squeezing the little PC board of the adapter underneath the original circuit board of the WH grip. It's an awful process!
Anyway, I give up. No more support required. I don't know whether this WH adapter works for many people, but it doesn't work for me, and I don't want to waste any more time with this.

[Victorus]

Try to test wires using ohmeter. Please show VKBDevCfg tabs Global - Common and External, Profile - Buttons - Physical layer.
Extract additional PCB and explore it. Shoot it and show pictures here.
I have repaired HAT of TMWH grips two times. Had to disassembly whole grip and then hat itself)) It is hard but interesting. And maybe we will have results))

[LeCuvier]

No Victorus, I don't want to spend any more time on this.
Thanks for trying to help!

[Victorus]

If you decide to resume your efforts - tell us.

[Ron61]

And with the old, its own base grip works?

[LeCuvier]

The old what? And what is a base grip? The joystick has a base and a grip; but no base grip.
The VKB Gladiator base with the VKB Gladiator grip works fine.

[Ron61]

This was the Warthog base. Does her native grip work?