Help programming VKB Gladiator NTX button for continuous depress

[tuffysdad]

Hi all. Wondering if a VKBDevCfg knowledgeable person can tell me how to program a button to stay depressed until pressed again? I want to use GNTX buttons to control the mouse wheel to rotate dials in DCS. I want to press the button once for the dial to start rotating continuously, then press again to stop it. I have tried to use Button-Alt (BA) but it only allows discrete depresses so I have to keep pressing the button to keep rotating the dial (standard Button (B) does the same). Can someone direct me to the proper setting(s)? Or is it a DCS thing? Thanks very much.

[1sascha]

Sounds like you're talking about turning one of the buttons into a toggle-switch?

If so:

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=6515#p54439

EDIT: Oops.. just saw that you already used the function I was suggesting. Hmm... could be a DCS thing... I'm using ButAlt on my pinky button to turn it into a toggle for IL-2's gunsight-view. WRT function in that game, the button set to "ButAlt" in VKB Config does behave in a "push and hold until pushed again" sort of way.

S.

[tuffysdad]

Yes, it seemed simple, just set BA. Apparently not so simple...

[fallout9]

Screenshots with the changes you've made please. Also, test the settings outside the game - if it works well, then the game won't allow the combo.

[tuffysdad]

Thanks for the reply. I hope these screenshots are sufficient. VKB Button Tester shows it is correct. A DCS issue? Any other tweaks in VKB config?

[Victorus]

Please describe - what do you want to control in DCS? What plane, what control?

[tuffysdad]

I am using the DCS P-51, F-86, and F-18 modules primarily. I want to be able to rotate dials with a button on my stick (essentially emulating a mouse wheel but with buttons). In the DCS "UI Layer" I presently control the left/right mouse buttons with a GNTX stick button left and right, and control the up/down mouse wheel with the same GNTX stick button for mouse wheel up and down (stick button up and down). The problem is the mouse wheel up/down is very slow and moves with discreet movements (in fact, two button pushes are required for one virtual dial click). I want the up/down button pushes to move the dial continuously until pushed again - like a Button-alt would do. But I have tried the Button-alt basic setting and the button still operates the dial with those discreet movements.

I was hoping for either a Button-alt tweak that would work to overcome what may be a DCS limiting factor ( maybe button function limitation), or a workaround like converting the button to axis but in one direction? These may not be possible, but of course any other suggestions would be most welcome.

Thanks very much.

[1sascha]

Have you tried other games? If it works as intended both in other games and in Windows control-panel, I'd suspect it's a DCS-thing. But with so many other functions available in VKB Config, perhaps there's a work-around.

Other than that, you might want to look at Joy2Key as a last resort. It's a bit of a crutch, and I don't use that particular function, but it does have a customizable auto-repeat option in there. Basically, you'd map the function in-game to a key or key-combo, then use Joy2Key to make your button send out that key/key-combo and use the auto-repeat function in Joy2Key to fine-tune the button's behavior to your liking.

Again: This is a pretty big work-around and if it's at all possible, I would probably prefer using VKB Config to get your desired in-game behavior. But at least it is/could be an option.

S.

[tuffysdad]

Thanks for the suggestions. I like the auto-repeat feature, but hesitate to get into yet another configuration app. With all of them (Joy2key, vjoy, joystick gremlin, etc.) I wonder if they play well together when more than one is used on a single device. If VKB has no software solution, looks like I am stuck with what I have. At least I would like to change the 2 presses to one virtual click ratio to a one-to-one...